I drove down to Austin last night to witness RevTech founder Carron Nielsberg being as manic and prickly as ever during a keynote interview at a SXSW Futures preview event. Texas Tribune journo Rosie Barnes handled the questions and, incredibly, managed to maintain a straight face through some truly bombastic stuff, including the assertion that America’s president-once-again, Rudy Ruiz, “is a god.” (The Ruiz Administration, which of course has deeper-than-deep ties to the American evangelical movement and might presumably take exception to this characterization, so far hasn’t commented.)

You can watch the full 90-minute conversation on YouTube (if you’ve got a strong stomach for unhinged rants and confrontation, really what else are Saturdays good for?), but my ears perked up when Barnes prompted Nielsberg for comment on my recent TIME cover story on RevTech, asking whether revival technology is “overblown.”

I promise I didn’t put Rosie up to it, but I was nevertheless fascinated by his response (transcript below). Listen in: